[Hayyan_Memon]

Ma'aaiyah Ibn Al- Hakim said:

'I had a servant girl who used to tend to my sheep in the area of Mount Uhud, near a place called Al-Jawwaareeyah. One day I came to see them only to find that a wolf had made off with a sheep from her flock. Since, I, like the rest of Adam's descendants, am prone to do regrettable acts, I gave her a terrible slap in her face. When I came to Allah 's Messenger (peace be upon him) with the story, he considered it a grave thing for me to have done. I said: 'O Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) couldn't I free her? He (peace be upon him) replied: "Bring her to me." So I brought her. He (peace be upon him) then asked her, "Where is Allah?" And she replied: "Above the sky." Then He (peace be upon him) asked her: "Who am I?" She replied "You are Allah's Messenger". So he (peace be upon him) said: "Free her; for she is a believer. "
[Muslim Vol. 1 Pg. 271-2 #1094]



SOME QURAAN REFFERENCES

[020:005] The Most Gracious (Allâh) rose over (Istawâ) the (Mighty) Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty).

[002.029] He it is Who created for you all that is on earth. Then He rose over (Istawâ) towards the heaven and made them seven heavens and He is the All-Knower of everything.

[007:054] Indeed, your Lord is Allâh, Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days, and then He rose over (Istawâ) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty). He brings the night as a cover over the day, seeking it rapidly, and (He created) the sun, the moon, the stars subjected to His Command. Surely, His is the creation and commandment. Blessed is Allâh, the Lord of the 'آlamîn (mankind, jinn and all that exists)!

[010:003] Surely, your Lord is Allâh Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over (Istawâ) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty), disposing the affair of all things. No intercessor (can plead with Him) except after His Leave. That is Allâh, your Lord; so worship Him (Alone). Then, will you not remember?

[013:002] Allâh is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that you can see. Then, He rose above (Istawâ) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty). He has subjected the sun and the moon (to continue going round), each running (its course) for a term appointed. He manages and regulates all affairs; He explains the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) in detail, that you may believe with certainty in the Meeting with your Lord.

[025:059] Who created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six Days. Then He rose over (Istawâ) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). The Most Gracious (Allâh)! Ask Him (O Prophet Muhammad [sal-Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam], concerning His Qualities: His rising over His Throne, His creations), as He is Khabîr (Well-Acquainted with everything, i.e. Allâh).

[032:004] Allâh it is He Who has created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them in six Days. Then He rose over (Istawâ) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). You (mankind) have none, besides Him, as a Walî (protector or helper) or an intercessor. Will you not then remember (or receive admonition)?

[041:011] Then He rose over (Istawâ) towards the heaven when it was smoke, and said to it and to the earth: "Come both of you willingly or unwillingly." They both said: "We come willingly."

[057:004] He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over (Istawâ) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). He knows what goes into the earth and what comes forth from it, and what descends from the heaven and what ascends thereto. And He is with you (by His Knowledge) wheresoever you may be. And Allâh is All-Seer of what you do.



NOTE : THERE IS A GREAT FALSE IN THE BASIC ISLAMIC INFO TAUGHT TO US BY TEXT BOOK.. AS PER ABOVE AYAH YOU CAN SEE.. ALLAH IS ON ARSH E AZEEM ON PHYSICAL BASES.. BUT YES HE IS EVERYWHERE FROM HIS KNOWLEDGE BASIS... BUT MOST OF US SAY WHEN SOMEONE ASKS THEM THAT WHERE IS ALLAH THERE REPLY IS ALLAH IS EVERYWHERE WITHOUT ANY PROPER READING OR KNOWLEDGE..

MAY ALLAH GUIDE US ON RIGHT PATH... AMEEN...

 

[Hayyan_Memon]

islam main allah ke quraan aur hazrat mohammad (pbuh) ke farmaan say barh kar kuch nahi..

 

[Noor ul huda]

Originally Posted by Hayyan_Memon

Ma'aaiyah Ibn Al- Hakim said:

'I had a servant girl who used to tend to my sheep in the area of Mount Uhud, near a place called Al-Jawwaareeyah. One day I came to see them only to find that a wolf had made off with a sheep from her flock. Since, I, like the rest of Adam's descendants, am prone to do regrettable acts, I gave her a terrible slap in her face. When I came to Allah 's Messenger (peace be upon him) with the story, he considered it a grave thing for me to have done. I said: 'O Messenger of Allah (peace be upon him) couldn't I free her? He (peace be upon him) replied: "Bring her to me." So I brought her. He (peace be upon him) then asked her, "Where is Allah?" And she replied: "Above the sky." Then He (peace be upon him) asked her: "Who am I?" She replied "You are Allah's Messenger". So he (peace be upon him) said: "Free her; for she is a believer. "
[Muslim Vol. 1 Pg. 271-2 #1094]



SOME QURAAN REFFERENCES

[020:005] The Most Gracious (Allâh) rose over (Istawâ) the (Mighty) Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty).

[002.029] He it is Who created for you all that is on earth. Then He rose over (Istawâ) towards the heaven and made them seven heavens and He is the All-Knower of everything.

[007:054] Indeed, your Lord is Allâh, Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days, and then He rose over (Istawâ) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty). He brings the night as a cover over the day, seeking it rapidly, and (He created) the sun, the moon, the stars subjected to His Command. Surely, His is the creation and commandment. Blessed is Allâh, the Lord of the 'آlamîn (mankind, jinn and all that exists)!

[010:003] Surely, your Lord is Allâh Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over (Istawâ) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty), disposing the affair of all things. No intercessor (can plead with Him) except after His Leave. That is Allâh, your Lord; so worship Him (Alone). Then, will you not remember?

[013:002] Allâh is He Who raised the heavens without any pillars that you can see. Then, He rose above (Istawâ) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty). He has subjected the sun and the moon (to continue going round), each running (its course) for a term appointed. He manages and regulates all affairs; He explains the Ayât (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) in detail, that you may believe with certainty in the Meeting with your Lord.

[025:059] Who created the heavens and the earth and all that is between them in six Days. Then He rose over (Istawâ) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). The Most Gracious (Allâh)! Ask Him (O Prophet Muhammad [sal-Allâhu 'alayhi wa sallam], concerning His Qualities: His rising over His Throne, His creations), as He is Khabîr (Well-Acquainted with everything, i.e. Allâh).

[032:004] Allâh it is He Who has created the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them in six Days. Then He rose over (Istawâ) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). You (mankind) have none, besides Him, as a Walî (protector or helper) or an intercessor. Will you not then remember (or receive admonition)?

[041:011] Then He rose over (Istawâ) towards the heaven when it was smoke, and said to it and to the earth: "Come both of you willingly or unwillingly." They both said: "We come willingly."

[057:004] He it is Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over (Istawâ) the Throne (in a manner that suits His Majesty). He knows what goes into the earth and what comes forth from it, and what descends from the heaven and what ascends thereto. And He is with you (by His Knowledge) wheresoever you may be. And Allâh is All-Seer of what you do.



NOTE : THERE IS A GREAT FALSE IN THE BASIC ISLAMIC INFO TAUGHT TO US BY TEXT BOOK.. AS PER ABOVE AYAH YOU CAN SEE.. ALLAH IS ON ARSH E AZEEM ON PHYSICAL BASES.. BUT YES HE IS EVERYWHERE FROM HIS KNOWLEDGE BASIS... BUT MOST OF US SAY WHEN SOMEONE ASKS THEM THAT WHERE IS ALLAH THERE REPLY IS ALLAH IS EVERYWHERE WITHOUT ANY PROPER READING OR KNOWLEDGE..

MAY ALLAH GUIDE US ON RIGHT PATH... AMEEN...

MashaAllah

well explained

i remember a quote of an aalim here.. >>> (I think Imaam Malik) he says.. >> "Istawa Maloom hay,Iss Ki kaifiyyat Majhool hay, Iss kay baray may Buhut sawal kerna Makrooh hay"


JazakAllah for sharing with us.

 

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Last edited by Noor ul huda; 11-19-2012 at 10:25 PM..

[~wish munda~]

JazakAllah khair

 

[Hayyan_Memon]

Originally Posted by Noor ul huda

MashaAllah

well explained

i remember a quote of an aalim here.. >>> (I think Imaam Malik) he says.. >> "Istawa Maloom hay,Iss Ki kaifiyyat Majhool hay, Iss kay baray may Buhut sawal kerna Makrooh hay"


JazakAllah for sharing with us.

You Are Right My Sister..He was the best person who explained it..

 

[AYAZ]

AS SALAAM O ALAIKUM,

Bhai Topic aap nie rakha hie ALLAH is on Arsh. Ap nie physically define kardiya hie ke wo Arsh per mojood hai Yeh baat kehna drust nah kyon ke uper jo aap nie reference diya hie aus mei Arsh ka kahi ziker nahi even aap nie ek Referrer kara aus mei aap nie yeh quote kara hie :

[007:054] Indeed, your Lord is Allâh, Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days, and then He rose over (Istawâ) the Throne (really in a manner that suits His Majesty). He brings the night as a cover over the day, seeking it rapidly, and (He created) the sun, the moon, the stars subjected to His Command. Surely, His is the creation and commandment. Blessed is Allâh, the Lord of the 'آlamîn (mankind, jinn and all that exists)!

Ais mei aap nie nights, Sun and moon ka bhi kaha tou yeh kehna drust nahi hoga ke ALLAH is on arsh physically.

Aap ko ager wo ayat yaad ho jis mei ALLAH nei farmaya ke :

ALLAH dilo ke darmiyan Hail hojata hei .

ALLAH Sherak sei bhi ziyada Qareeb hai.

Hum ko yeh kehna chaiye ke ALLAH Subhan Wataala Makaan sei paak hai. ALLAH Paak Jagaho Sei Paak hai. Balkey yeh kehna chaiye ke ALLAH Paak Apney Ilm oo Qudrat sei har jaga mojood hai. ALLAH paak nie istawa farmaya hei Apni shaan ke mutabiq ab ALLAH ki shaan kiya hai ais ka Andaza Sirf ALLAH Paak laga saktey hei aur Hamarey liye ais ki tashreeh janna zarorri nahi .Yeh kehna ke Sirf Arsh per hai Physically basis per yeh ghalat hoga. Jub hum Qayamat mei dekheinge ke ALLAH paak nei kis tara yeh Istawa farmaiya tab hi jaeninge. Apni taref sei kehna Drust nahi.

 

[Zafina]

Mein kia keh sakti hon is baray..Humara ilm mehdood hay Bass ALLAH nay Keh deya k wo Arsh pr Istawa hain tu humra Emaan hay k wo hay ab kaisy hain kaha hay halaat kia hay no one knows ... Is baray me Behes kerna bay bunyad hay.

 

[AYAZ]

Originally Posted by Zafina

Mein kia keh sakti hon is baray..Humara ilm mehdood hay Bass ALLAH nay Keh deya k wo Arsh pr Istawa hain tu humra Emaan hay k wo hay ab kaisy hain kaha hay halaat kia hay no one knows ... Is baray me Behes kerna bay bunyad hay.

Exactly. Yeh kehna ke wo bas physically wahi hei kehna ghalat hie kyon ke ALLAH ki shaan ke mutabiq Istawa hai.

 

[Z_Zealous]

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