[eXquisite Inception]

Originally Posted by beyond_vision

We MUST protest but with sanity and dignity. Burning down the buildings or killing other innocent people is not the reply to that.

Couldn't agree anymore...Perhaps a peaceful protest would be more suitable? A peaceful protest does not hurt...Quran-e-pak bantay...Quran kii taleem loagoon tuk phonchain...so they know what's really in it...What this deen is really about...Dosroon ko hurt keer kaay or even khud kaay loagoon ko hurt keer kaay...buildings jala kaay...We're not really putting up a good image of Islam bakiyoon kaay samnay...Asay tu dushman dosroon saay kahay gaa...see this was expected of them...Didn't I tell you kaay yah loag peaceful loag nahin hain...Tu wooh baat jo phelay sach thii bii nahin abb sach hoo jatii haay....We do exactly jo dushman chatha haay...but I guess hum yah baat kabhi samjh nahin payay...dushman jaal bichatha haay knowing our weakness...We should not fall into it...But we fall into it every time...We don't think...We just do what we want to...and then the whole Muslim world have to face its consequences

 

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Last edited by eXquisite Inception; 09-16-2012 at 09:40 AM..

[AYAZ]

I think they have gone too far this time and this shows exactly what I meant when it started back in face book Boycott problem.

Check out my comments about this at http://www.meraforum.com/showthread.php?t=38894

When Pakistani people and government take action on this?

 

[Shaam]

peaceful protest : )
yeh peaceful dialogues ka sabaq europe and usa ko yaad nahi ata jab iraq me weapons ka msla ata hai
ya afghanistan me taliban gov girani ho jab muammar qazzafi ki government hatani ho ya jab waziristaan me operation ki baat ho . waha peace ful dialogue nahi action karo
yaha peaceful raho kio ke y aha tou in goro ki jaanein bari qeemti hain : )

Allah ke rasool saw ne kudh apni tauheen karne walei ke lia saza e maut tajweez ki hai so us qanoon ko hum kaun hotey hain badalne walei... aur waisey bhi USA embassy hamari building nahi hoti : ) aur yah protest hotey hi nahi ger government level per is ke against me protest kia jata .. waha zameer farosh hain tou ab aap yeh chahtey ho ke baqi sab bhi kamzori sei bakri ki awazein nikaltey jain...


ek waqt hai hota hai ..... jab tak musalman ne hath me talwar rakhi tab tak poori dunya sir jhukaaye rahi
hum ne talwaar giraai aur humari zillat ki dastaan shuru hogai ....

Thanks to Allah ke wo bhoola sabaq phir sei yaad araha hai ....
even u all have read in hadith kei jab Imam mehdi aur hazrat eesa ka zahoor hoga
tou wo peace aur economy ki baat nahi kareinge
wo dialogue bhi nahi kareinge
un dono ke hath me talwar hogi
aur wo deen ko dobara zinda karein ge

 

[AYAZ]

Originally Posted by beyond_vision

Hmmm Jee han Noor sis, that issue is a hot debate topic these dayz. I truly condemn the making of that film but I don't agree with few Muslims burning down the property and hotels and destroying the foreign embassies.
My response to that film is :

“Our Prophet's (P.B.U.H) honor came from the sky. No one on earth can take it away.
We shouldn't be mad at haters. We should feel sorry for them. They can't harm us. They can't harm Allah's deen. Just themselves."
and:
First of all let's be very clear that whoever made that blasphemous movie knew the consequences,All this has been done on purpose,The timing was perfect i.e 9/11 and things exactly followed as they planned,Muslims started rioting all around the globe burning their own property and killing their own people,Unfortunately we fell for it,

This will only strengthen the Israeli Zionist lobby sitting in the Pentagon,Nobody will question the responsible man behind this fire but instead they'll portray us all Muslims as the bad guy,Killing an American who had nothing to do with that movie.

We MUST protest but with sanity and dignity. Burning down the buildings or killing other innocent people is not the reply to that.
P.S : You want to take revenge? Then be what Rasoolullah SAWW wanted you to be and hold tight the rope of Allah,May Allah destroy those who make fun of His Deen and His Habeeb.

That was my approach of seeing on all that incident

We done the peaceful protest already when it came to Facebook first time remember?. So that didn't work and eventually facebook got open in Pakistan again. They will keep doing this things until we all muslim countries stand together against such acts.

 

[beyond_vision]

Originally Posted by Shaam

peaceful protest : )
yeh peaceful dialogues ka sabaq europe and usa ko yaad nahi ata jab iraq me weapons ka msla ata hai
ya afghanistan me taliban gov girani ho jab muammar qazzafi ki government hatani ho ya jab waziristaan me operation ki baat ho . waha peace ful dialogue nahi action karo
yaha peaceful raho kio ke y aha tou in goro ki jaanein bari qeemti hain : )

Allah ke rasool saw ne kudh apni tauheen karne walei ke lia saza e maut tajweez ki hai so us qanoon ko hum kaun hotey hain badalne walei... aur waisey bhi USA embassy hamari building nahi hoti : ) aur yah protest hotey hi nahi ger government level per is ke against me protest kia jata .. waha zameer farosh hain tou ab aap yeh chahtey ho ke baqi sab bhi kamzori sei bakri ki awazein nikaltey jain...


ek waqt hai hota hai ..... jab tak musalman ne hath me talwar rakhi tab tak poori dunya sir jhukaaye rahi
hum ne talwaar giraai aur humari zillat ki dastaan shuru hogai ....

Thanks to Allah ke wo bhoola sabaq phir sei yaad araha hai ....
even u all have read in hadith kei jab Imam mehdi aur hazrat eesa ka zahoor hoga
tou wo peace aur economy ki baat nahi kareinge
wo dialogue bhi nahi kareinge
un dono ke hath me talwar hogi
aur wo deen ko dobara zinda karein ge

Jee han Peaceful Protests!
Jab Iraq main weapons aur attack ka masla aata hay to Security Council main bohat se Veto holding Mumalik Bashmaool Russia aur China Usa K is descision K Khilaaf jatay hain lekin Kiun K Usa Super Power hay is liay woh UN K Khilaaf jatay hooay bhi Attack ka faisla kartay hain lekin in the end, Jab Sachayi Duniya K samnay aati hay tou Usa ko Muzzamat ka nishana banaya jata hay aur is kay nateejay main Bush ko Sadaarat se Haath Dhona partay hain.
Afghanistan main attack bhi isi silsalay ki kari tha Jis kay nateejay main Usa aur doosray allies ko Reputation loss ka Saamna karna para.
Rahi baat Libeya, Egypt, Yemen, Tunasia aur Arab Spring ki tou Yeh baat sab par wazeh hay K in Mumaalik par dictators rule kar rahay thay aur Yahan ki awaam ne hi sab se pehle un k Khilaaf Awaz Buland ki thi!.

Deen Ki samajh wakaiye aap main mujh se Kahi'n ziyada hay tou is muamlay main Behas nahi karoon gi! You must be right when saying k Allah k Rasool ne khud Sazay-e-Moat tajveez ki hay us shaks k liay Jo un ki Shaan main Ghustakhi ka Murtakab ho aur Main is Baat par puri tarah aap say Mutafik hoon K aisay Shaks ko kari se kari saza di jani chhaiye lekin Mera point siraf itna hay K saza us aik shaks ya Ashkhaas ko milni chhaiye Jo K is Gunah-e-azeem main Mulawis hain Na K Un Tamaam Logo Ko Jo Bilwasta Ya Bilawasta Esaayiat K Akeeday se Taluk Rakhtay hain. Is Film K jawab main KFC ko Aaag laga dena kahan ki danishmandi hay? Jab K us KFC main loag yakeenan Mukaami (in that case Arab) thay. Aur I agree K USA embassy hamari building nahi magar Us USA embassy main kaam karnay walay bohat se Hamray Mukaami (Arab people) bhi thay. Aur us Embassador ko is k nateejay main Maar dalna? Yeh kahan ka insaaf hay? Jurn jis nay kia hay saza usi ko milna chhaiye.

Aur Hum kis Islam ki baat kar rahay hain? Woh Islam woh Tolerance, aur Aman ka pegham deta hay. We shud all look upon to our prophet's examples who If I remember well K aik wakiya hay abt an old lady jo k Hazoor par garbage phainka karti thi lekin aap kabhi barham na hooay balkay jab woh bemaar hooyi tou uski Iyaadat ko bhi gaye. Yeh hamaray prophet ki Oonchi shaan thi!

aur rahi baat Talwar ki, Tou Momin Aman main rehna pasand karta hay lekin jab uskay khilaaf talwar uthayi jaati hay tou phir woh peechay nahi hat ta. lekin kabhi bhi larayi main pehal nahi karta. I guess iski bhi bohat si Misalain hamain Islam main Mil jayein gi. Bohat se aisay treaties Jin main Prophet PBUH ne Sulah ka Raasta apnaya bajay larayi K and I guess we shud follow his foot steps.

In sum, My point is not to say that protests shud not be done at all but they shud be done in a more sane and dignified way. Killing other people who have nothing to do with the event or damaging ur own property is not the solution to the problem. The solution only lies in letting them know abt the true nature of Islam which is not abt Killings and fight but rather Peace and Prosperity!
May Allah Bless us all!

 

[beyond_vision]

Originally Posted by AYAZ

We done the peaceful protest already when it came to Facebook first time remember?. So that didn't work and eventually facebook got open in Pakistan again. They will keep doing this things until we all muslim countries stand together against such acts.

Jee han I've visited that thread also that u had mentioned before! and I guess Pakistan took the right descision at that point to show their discomfort in a very peaceful way and it did had the affect Sir as If I remember correctly, That page was deleted from the Fb. So In my opinion, It did work

This time also, I guess Pakistan's response on that issue is quite reasonable. They r doing peaceful protests and I haven't seen or heared them burning down building or killing the minorities over that which is a very good thing. I've seen some statments of protests on the part of the Politicians like Shehbaaz Sharif and Chaudray Shujaat Ali which is also very reasonable. They r telling the world abt their discomfort and their grieviences through a peaceful yet powerful way!
Besides, lets face the fact sir that we r living in a world of globalization and it is litterally impossible for us to stop every single person from saying or doing whatever they r saying or doing. This video is not any official Holly Wood movie. Its some home made production. the quality of that video is very poor indeed and any person with sane mind would consider it a complete rubbish. So to expect from the US authorities to apologise for that wud also be a bit too much. Obama did condemned it but then again coz of the coming elections he can't do much when he is getting the remarks of "having soft corner for Muslims".
So In my opinion, the best thing to do is to tackle the issue with some intellect and try to spread the awareness abt the true meaning and teachings of Islam. This would be the perfect Jihaad that we wud all be doing with pen.
May Allah Bless us all!

 

[eXquisite Inception]

Originally Posted by beyond_vision

In sum, My point is not to say that protests shud not be done at all but they shud be done in a more sane and dignified way. Killing other people who have nothing to do with the event or damaging ur own property is not the solution to the problem. The solution only lies in letting them know abt the true nature of Islam which is not abt Killings and fight but rather Peace and Prosperity!
May Allah Bless us all!

Shukriyah...Everything I was going to say wooh app naay kah diya haay...thanks

 

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Last edited by eXquisite Inception; 09-17-2012 at 05:02 AM..

[Shaolin]

Allah Har musalmaan ko is kaam main madad karnay ki taufeeq ata farmay
Ameen

 

[cutepoison]

Originally Posted by beyond_vision

Hmmm Jee han Noor sis, that issue is a hot debate topic these dayz. I truly condemn the making of that film but I don't agree with few Muslims burning down the property and hotels and destroying the foreign embassies.
My response to that film is :

“Our Prophet's (P.B.U.H) honor came from the sky. No one on earth can take it away.
We shouldn't be mad at haters. We should feel sorry for them. They can't harm us. They can't harm Allah's deen. Just themselves."
and:
First of all let's be very clear that whoever made that blasphemous movie knew the consequences,All this has been done on purpose,The timing was perfect i.e 9/11 and things exactly followed as they planned,Muslims started rioting all around the globe burning their own property and killing their own people,Unfortunately we fell for it,

This will only strengthen the Israeli Zionist lobby sitting in the Pentagon,Nobody will question the responsible man behind this fire but instead they'll portray us all Muslims as the bad guy,Killing an American who had nothing to do with that movie.

We MUST protest but with sanity and dignity. Burning down the buildings or killing other innocent people is not the reply to that.
P.S : You want to take revenge? Then be what Rasoolullah SAWW wanted you to be and hold tight the rope of Allah,May Allah destroy those who make fun of His Deen and His Habeeb.

That was my approach of seeing on all that incident

Originally Posted by (¯*♥¤»ƙɧՄՏɧՅԾԾ«¤♥*¯)

Agree.. Protest in a peaceful way..

Originally Posted by eXquisite Inception

Couldn't agree anymore...Perhaps a peaceful protest would be more suitable? A peaceful protest does not hurt...Quran-e-pak bantay...Quran kii taleem loagoon tuk phonchain...so they know what's really in it...What this deen is really about...Dosroon ko hurt keer kaay or even khud kaay loagoon ko hurt keer kaay...buildings jala kaay...We're not really putting up a good image of Islam bakiyoon kaay samnay...Asay tu dushman dosroon saay kahay gaa...see this was expected of them...Didn't I tell you kaay yah loag peaceful loag nahin hain...Tu wooh baat jo phelay sach thii bii nahin abb sach hoo jatii haay....We do exactly jo dushman chatha haay...but I guess hum yah baat kabhi samjh nahin payay...dushman jaal bichatha haay knowing our weakness...We should not fall into it...But we fall into it every time...We don't think...We just do what we want to...and then the whole Muslim world have to face its consequences

Originally Posted by Shaam

peaceful protest : )
yeh peaceful dialogues ka sabaq europe and usa ko yaad nahi ata jab iraq me weapons ka msla ata hai
ya afghanistan me taliban gov girani ho jab muammar qazzafi ki government hatani ho ya jab waziristaan me operation ki baat ho . waha peace ful dialogue nahi action karo
yaha peaceful raho kio ke y aha tou in goro ki jaanein bari qeemti hain : )

Allah ke rasool saw ne kudh apni tauheen karne walei ke lia saza e maut tajweez ki hai so us qanoon ko hum kaun hotey hain badalne walei... aur waisey bhi USA embassy hamari building nahi hoti : ) aur yah protest hotey hi nahi ger government level per is ke against me protest kia jata .. waha zameer farosh hain tou ab aap yeh chahtey ho ke baqi sab bhi kamzori sei bakri ki awazein nikaltey jain...


ek waqt hai hota hai ..... jab tak musalman ne hath me talwar rakhi tab tak poori dunya sir jhukaaye rahi
hum ne talwaar giraai aur humari zillat ki dastaan shuru hogai ....

Thanks to Allah ke wo bhoola sabaq phir sei yaad araha hai ....
even u all have read in hadith kei jab Imam mehdi aur hazrat eesa ka zahoor hoga
tou wo peace aur economy ki baat nahi kareinge
wo dialogue bhi nahi kareinge
un dono ke hath me talwar hogi
aur wo deen ko dobara zinda karein ge

Originally Posted by AYAZ

We done the peaceful protest already when it came to Facebook first time remember?. So that didn't work and eventually facebook got open in Pakistan again. They will keep doing this things until we all muslim countries stand together against such acts.

Peaceful Protest beshaq hota agar wo government level pe ho raha hota ... dunya bhar me tor phor ki ja rahi hai aur apne hi logo ki tor por ki ja rahi hai us ki sab se bari waja ye hai k dunya bhar me koi bhi government is k against koi action nahi le rahi ... awam ye protest against USA nahi kar rahi bulkey apne hi government ka against ki ja rahi hai k akhir q chup hain ? awam tor phor bilkul bhi nahi karey agar tamam muslims countries apas me mil ker action lein ...

Just like once Japan ne muslim countries k khilaf voting ki thi to Saudi Arabia ne Oil band kar diya tha, then us ne khud ne maufi mangi thi ..

 

[AYAZ]

Originally Posted by beyond_vision

Jee han I've visited that thread also that u had mentioned before! and I guess Pakistan took the right descision at that point to show their discomfort in a very peaceful way and it did had the affect Sir as If I remember correctly, That page was deleted from the Fb. So In my opinion, It did work

This time also, I guess Pakistan's response on that issue is quite reasonable. They r doing peaceful protests and I haven't seen or heared them burning down building or killing the minorities over that which is a very good thing. I've seen some statments of protests on the part of the Politicians like Shehbaaz Sharif and Chaudray Shujaat Ali which is also very reasonable. They r telling the world abt their discomfort and their grieviences through a peaceful yet powerful way!
Besides, lets face the fact sir that we r living in a world of globalization and it is litterally impossible for us to stop every single person from saying or doing whatever they r saying or doing. This video is not any official Holly Wood movie. Its some home made production. the quality of that video is very poor indeed and any person with sane mind would consider it a complete rubbish. So to expect from the US authorities to apologise for that wud also be a bit too much. Obama did condemned it but then again coz of the coming elections he can't do much when he is getting the remarks of "having soft corner for Muslims".
So In my opinion, the best thing to do is to tackle the issue with some intellect and try to spread the awareness abt the true meaning and teachings of Islam. This would be the perfect Jihaad that we wud all be doing with pen.
May Allah Bless us all!

Thanks for going through my old comments on that thread. Removal of page didn't work out. If that so this wouldn't be happening. What I am saying is that we have to settle an example so that anyone before doing this should think about this. Have you heard anything like this before 2005 ? or so. Now it's look like anyone can do this because we do protest in a peaceful way and forget about it and when it comes to our PROPHET HAZRAT MUHAMMAD (P.B.U.H). A true Muslim can not let it go peacefully simple is that. Because we did protest peacefully and out come is nothing except few months of rest before doing another such kind of things and they will keep doing it again and again.

Attack on Black PPl is Racism.
Attack on Jew is antiSemitism.
Attack on Religious Sect is hate of speech.
But Attack on Our Prophet is freedom of expression?

I strongly Condemn double standard of West and resolute with myself to be a better Muslim to strengthen my believe & Ummah.